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mheart 7 years ago on 04/05/10
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We should have a thread for space stuff so here we go!

Dudes, Discovery is launching in ~15 minutes! Go watch on the NASA site: http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/
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mheart 7 years ago on 04/05/10
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Oh look a galaxy.
PS: SCIENCE DUDES SCIENCE
PS: 2 minutes
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Peabody 7 years ago on 04/05/10
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Awesome! It looks like a great morning for a launch!
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mheart 7 years ago on 04/05/10
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Oh durf, the 2 minutes was for a 45 minute hold. There are ~8 minutes til launch. :)
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Britishly Delicious 7 years ago on 04/05/10
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Awesome

Thanks Bri !
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mheart 7 years ago on 04/05/10
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Kumba 7 years ago on 04/05/10
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mheart said:
Oh durf, the 2 minutes was for a 45 minute hold. There are ~8 minutes til launch. :)

Yup, they have what are called "built-in holds" into the countdown. Usually used for internal checks among the flight crew and missing control. Full run down is here:
http://...nasa.gov/...ges/shuttle/launch/countdown101.html

Three launches and four landings left now, unless Congress pulls a bipartisan miracle out of it's backside to force a few more missions (which I do not see happening, as most missions are planned out years in advance).
PS: Those who watched the launch, this was the last night launch in the history of the STS (Shuttle Transport System) program. The previous launch was supposed to be the last night launch, but the delays on this mission changed that. Could happen to the last three launches as well, too.
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Barney Stinson 7 years ago on 04/05/10
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I DIDN'T KNOW! God damn it I can't believe I missed it!
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Kumba 7 years ago on 04/05/10
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Battlestar Galactica said:
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF!!!

I DIDN'T KNOW! God damn it I can't believe I missed it!


Yeah, I forgot about it as well. Even then, staying up till, or getting up at ~6am is near impossible for me. But that's why I enjoy having NASATV via satellite :)
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mheart 7 years ago on 04/05/10
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There are only 3 missions to go in the fleet. :c
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Barney Stinson 7 years ago on 04/05/10
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That's okay. The sooner those missions ends the faster the Battlestar class ships will be built. :D
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Kumba 7 years ago on 04/05/10
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mheart said:
There are only 3 missions to go in the fleet. :c

Udvar-Hazy has the Enterprise test model right now, but I think they're going to get Discovery when it is retired. It's believed that Atlantis might wind up in California, somewhere near the Boeing facility that built it (again, I think), and Endeavour could wind up permanently at KSC proper. If Udvar-Hazy gets Discovery, then Enterprise will move somewhere else, too.

Also per these two articles, Atlantis and Endeavour are supposedly up for sale...if you have ~$28.8 million. But an SSME is free, if you have a way of transporting it home. I'm probably sure I could find something to do with a rocket engine....

http://...tomsguide.com/...deavour-Atlantis,news-5595.html
http://telegraph.co.uk/...uttle-up-for-sale-for-17.7m.html
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Cognac Jack 7 years ago on 04/05/10
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Kumba said:

Udvar-Hazy has the Enterprise test model right now, but I think they're going to get Discovery when it is retired. It's believed that Atlantis might wind up in California, somewhere near the Boeing facility that built it (again, I think),...


Annnnd sold, to mister...Il and mister Bin Laden
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mheart 7 years ago on 05/15/10
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Oops forgot to bump this thread but I saw the last launch of Atlantis yesterday. Sad times but I'm looking forward to these other launches. :]

http://www.nasa.gov/missions/highlights/schedule.html
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Kumba 7 years ago on 05/15/10
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NASA's going to prep Atlantis for use as a rescue shuttle for the final flight of the entire program. Though reportedly, NASA says if it was given the green light for one additional mission by June, Atlantis would be prepped for it instead.
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Cognac Jack 7 years ago on 05/16/10
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This thred should be labled as R.I.P. United States space program
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Kumba 7 years ago on 05/16/10
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It's not dead yet. Obama's only proposed axing the Constellation program in the 2011 budget, which hasn't met the battle axes of certain congressional members from Texas, Florida, Mississippi, Alabama, Utah yet. In face, they're already sounding the calls of battle:

Orlando Sentinel Blogs said:
WASHINGTON — Two Republican lawmakers today moved to block White House efforts to kill NASA’s Constellation program, adding an amendment to a broad budget bill that prohibits NASA from taking steps to terminate efforts to return astronauts to the moon.

The provision, inserted in an emergency spending bill aimed at funding military operations in Afghanistan, is the latest salvo in a months-long battle between Congress and the White House on what to do with NASA after the agency retires the space shuttle fleet at the end of the year.

The measure by Republican Sens. Richard Shelby of Alabama and Bob Bennett of Utah would force NASA to keep spending money on the Constellation moon program in 2010, even though President Barack Obama wants to cancel a key component: the Ares rockets that would boost an Apollo-like capsule into orbit (pictured at left).

The White House wants to replace the shuttle with commercial rockets and focus NASA engineers on building a futuristic spacecraft that could put astronauts on an asteroid by 2025. Some members of Congress want to keep the Constellation, which already has cost $9 billion but has been plagued by problems that would make it impossible to meet its goal of a lunar return mission by 2020.

Both Shelby and Bennett hail from states with ties to Constellation contracts. Each took credit for inserting the measure, which still must survive votes in the Senate and House before becoming law.

“I remain confident that this administration has made a critical mistake in cancelling the Constellation and Ares programs. I will continue to make it a top priority this year to reverse the president’s decision and restore Constellation and the Ares rocket booster,” said Bennett in a statement.

Last year, Shelby inserted a similar provision in another 2010 spending measure. That latest language largely reiterates that message.

http://...orlandosentinel.com/...-boost-from-congress.html


I'm kind of enthused by the new direction, though. Hesitantly, I'll add. The prospect of NASA getting an extra $1 billion a year in funding for the next five years? That's the biggest boost in their budget since the Apollo program. They've been holding steady at ~$16-17 billion per year for the last 20 years almost (including accounting for inflation).

The only other country that's done space as good as us are the Russians. The Chinese are no where near close to pulling off what we've done. What they have pulled off, has been done using borrowed Russian technology (which they tweaked for their own needs). The issues of the ISS and hitching rides on the Soyuz aside, focusing on technology development is a very good direction. I wish Obama put more thought into the ISS/Soyuz bits, but largely, he's following the recommendations laid out in the Augustine Committee's report on Human Space Flight:
http://...nasa.gov/.../396093main_HSF_Cmte_FinalReport.pdf
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mheart 6 years ago on 02/24/11
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Today is Discovery's final launch! 4:50 PM EST

http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

Two shuttles remain for the final launches of this fleet (according to http://twitter.com/#!/NASA 2/24):
April 19: Endeavour
June 28: Atlantis
PS: Pretty awesome that Atlantis gets one more mission.
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Xtian 6 years ago on 02/24/11
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we've got beers in the fridge here at the office just waiting for lift off
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Peabody 6 years ago on 02/24/11
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I wanted to go to this launch so bad but I have a mid term from 3-6pm.

WHY DO YOU TAUNT ME FROM THE HEAVENS!?

Anyone that wants to fly down to Florida for one of the remaining launches, I'll be going to the rest of them, so accommodations and transportation can be provided no problem!
PS: Kumba, the Russians can suck it compared to us when it comes to space. Their technology is mostly stuff they scrapped out of junkyards! EADS (who owns Arianespace and Astrium) is way ahead of them in terms of technology, the Russians just have cheap Soyez rockets, that's about the only think going for them.

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