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tranoid no ki 2 years ago on 11/27/11
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WWNSX said:


PC Skyrim just might change your mind on that. I heard it's pretty brutal on ultra settings.


Played just fine on an Intel Core 2 E8400 and a GTX 560 with 4GB of RAM. Plays even better since my overclock.
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WWNSX 2 years ago on 11/27/11
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Andrew said:
Yesterday my Antec power supply died a spectacular, spark-throwing death. At this point, I don't know what else it might have killed as it blew. If I hadn't just ordered a new motherboard and RAM, I would probably just throw up my hands and swear of...


Ironically my antec 480w PSU died in early 2008 but friend the 5volt pins on my motherboard and ended up taking out my nvidia 6800GT in the process but it was really more my fault.

I had redone the thermal paste in the 6800 but hadn't order replacement pads for the video cards memory so that ended up stressing the system to the breaking point in 2008. I ended up getting a 550W SeaSonic PSU and a new motherboard board since m ram and other parts worked fine and i had a Backup video card.

The SeaSonic PSU is now running a quad core SLI system although it's two 9800GT SLI.

Panzer Panda said:
Ok been a long time coming and I have to update my rig since I'm tired of either playing the lastest games on the lowest settings or not being able to play them at all.

Have a Dell XPS 710 Intel 2 (4mb L2 cache, 2.4ghz. 1066FSB)
256MB nVidia ...


You could do a CPU upgrade as well according to Dell-Chris-m on the 2nd post in this thread but even if you do that the q6600 or qx6700 is pretty much still a bottle neck from some threads I've read on the Guru3D forums.
http://...dell.com/...14/p/19374750/19860078.aspx#19860078

I'd also recommend updating your dell system BIOS since it seems from the dell thread's i've read that people tend to have a problem to upgrade there CPU if the BIOS isn't 1.4.1

GTX460 you might as well upgrade to a GTX 560 1GB since you can get them for around $200 just make sure you get a SLI version if you plan on getting a 2nd video card (usually the exact same model for nvidia SLI so same GPU and memory size). It's a Good thing that system has a 750w power supply so you can upgrade it a little and do SLI since from what I've seen on the dell forums it's a SLI capable system but i would double check your motherboard by physically looking at it to make sure.

IF you're doing Graphics work besides gaming on that rig then yeah go 8GB but if you're not then you might as well stick with 4GB for a 64bit OS. If you're not running a 64bit OS then you might as well get 3GB since a 32bit OS is limited to 3.5 GB max and that depends on the motherboard and the extended range memory mapping.

I'd look at cost of a new system Vs upgrading your existing one also depending on what you decide to upgrade look at getting combo deals of whatever parts you want.
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Straight Baby Thighs said:


Played just fine on an Intel Core 2 E8400 and a GTX 560 with 4GB of RAM. Plays even better since my overclock.


Are you running ULTRA settings though because that's what i stated.

Yeah Skyrim still scales well on lower requirement systems but if you're shooting for 1920x1080 and higher then 60FPS with everything turned on you'll probably need SLI GTX 570's or the AMD equivalent to go beyond that or that what it seems from this page at Tom's Hardware.

http://...tomshardware.com/...rmance-benchmark,3074-8.html

I wish they would release a PC demo but with the game being so big they won't :(
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tranoid no ki 2 years ago on 11/27/11
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Yes. I am. And I was playing it on ultra before the overclock too.
 
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SuitJamas 2 years ago on 11/29/11
Oh yeah!!!! I just pulled the trigga on that new RIG purchase. Got in just under the wire of that Post Black Friday Deal end. Here are the specs.

CAS: CoolerMaster HAF 912 Mid-Tower Gaming Case w/ Adjustable HDD Cage (Black Color)
CD: LG UH12LS28K 12X Blu-Ray Player & DVDRW Combo Drive (BLACK COLOR)
COOLANT: Standard Coolant
CPU: Intel(R) Core™ i5-2500 3.30 GHz 6M Intel Smart Cache LGA1155
CS_FAN: Default case fans
FAN: Intel LGA1156 Certified CPU Fan & Heatsink
FLASHMEDIA: INTERNAL 12in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer (BLACK COLOR)
HDD: 120 GB OCZ Agility 3 SATA-III 6.0Gb/s SSD - 525MB/s Read & 500MB/s Write (Single Drive)
HDD2: 1TB SATA-III 6.0Gb/s 32MB Cache 7200RPM HDD (Single Drive)
IUSB: Built-in USB 2.0 Ports
KEYBOARD: Xtreme Gear (Black Color) Multimedia/Internet USB Keyboard
MEMORY: 16GB (4GBx4) DDR3/1600MHz Dual Channel Memory (Corsair Vengeance)
MOTHERBOARD:
[CrossFireX/SLI] GigaByte GA-Z68MA-D2H-B3 Intel Z68 Chipset DDR3 mATX MB w/ Lucid Virtu Intel Smart Response Technology & 7.1 HD Audio, GbLAN, USB3.0, 2x SATA-III RAID, 2 Gen2 PCIe, 1 PCIe X4 & 1 PCIe X1 (All Venom OC Certified)
MOUSE: XtremeGear Optical USB 3 Buttons Gaming Mouse
NETWORK: Onboard Gigabit LAN Network
OS: Microsoft(R) Windows 7 Home Premium (64-bit Edition)
POWERSUPPLY: * 850 Watts - Corsair CMPSU-850TXV2 80 Plus Power Supply - Quad SLI Ready
SERVICE: STANDARD WARRANTY: 3-YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY PLUS LIFE-TIME TECHNICAL SUPPORT
SOUND: Creative Labs SB X-Fi Xtreme Audio 24-BIT PCI Sound Card
VIDEO: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)
VIDEO2: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 570 1.2GB 16X PCIe Video Card (Major Brand Powered by NVIDIA)

This is stuff I already have that I will use with the new RIG
I have a 24 inch monitor - Dell 2408 WFP (Digital)
Creative USB Fatality Surround Sound Headset
Some Creative 5.1 speakers (I can't remember what the model number is)
PS: I don't know why that stuff in the middle got bolded, so pay no attention to that.
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Kumba 2 years ago on 11/29/11
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Frito said:
Since I can't find any of the others I'm making a new thread. (We should have a sticky at some point don't ya think?)

Here's my boggle. I have a mobo that's at least a year or two old. 8gigs of DDR2, Quad Core, Core 2 duo

Here's the Mothe...


I have almost the same motherboard, EP45-DS3R, and the PCI Express thing is a complete non-issue. Granted, while I don't play the latest games with the blingiest graphics, but I do have a Radeon 58xx in it, and it runs fine.

That said, the PCI Express support is a function of the Northbridge chipset, in your case, the Intel P35. That only looks to support PCI Express 1.1, whereas the P45 on my board does PCI Express 1.1 or 2.0. So if a motherboard spec listing omits the supported PCI Express version support, look it up by Northbridge chipset.


Straight Baby Thighs said:
Yes. I am. And I was playing it on ultra before the overclock too.


A really good, in-depth guide to overclocking on the Core 2 quad and duals. Because motherboard manufacturers can't even explain half the settings in a BIOS in broken Engrish. Not sure how well it applies to the i3/i5/i7 series:
http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=47089
 
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SuitJamas 2 years ago on 12/05/11
DOH! I had a compatibilty issue with my Cyberpower build. Seems my mobo didn't have a regular PCI slot to put my sound card in. The guy was saying that I had 7.1 sound with this mobo and that I didn't really need the soundcard. I thought about it for a moment, but decided to keep the soundcard and just switch mobos. Now my mobo is GigaByte Z68X-UD3H-B3 Intel Z68 Chipset DDR3 ATX Mainboard. I don't know if it is going to make that much difference with this soundcard, but I figure if your gonna get a super powered RIG, why cheese out on the soundcard. You gotta go all the way and complete the fully operational Death Star.
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tranoid no ki 2 years ago on 12/05/11
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KingLewieXIV said:
DOH! I had a compatibilty issue with my Cyberpower build. Seems my mobo didn't have a regular PCI slot to put my sound card in. The guy was saying that I had 7.1 sound with this mobo and that I didn't really need the soundcard. I thought about i...


Because dedicated soundcards really aren't necessary anymore.
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WWNSX 2 years ago on 12/06/11
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Dorothy Zbornak said:


Because dedicated soundcards really aren't necessary anymore.


Sorry but you're dead wrong. They are still necessary. I had to buy one just to play Arkham asylum because the sound would lag and just grind the game to a halt; I even bothered to look on their forums to see if other people had the same problem and they did and buying a sound made the problem go away.

I noticed a massive difference in the sound in term of volume and quality when i did have a sound card as well.

I'm still planning on getting one for proper blu-ray playback on my system but i guess I'm one of few who still care for audio on their PC.


Lewie if you still have slots left open on your system when you get it you could go for a PCI-E Sound card since they do make them for the PCI Express slot/bus IF you feel the need.
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tranoid no ki 2 years ago on 12/06/11
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WWNSX said:


Sorry but you're dead wrong. They are still necessary. I had to buy one just to play Arkham asylum because the sound would lag and just grind the game to a halt; I even bothered to look on their forums to see if other people had the same prob...



I have never had any issues whatsoever with lag, latency, quality or anything like that, so I just don't know. I haven't had a dedicated sound card since like, Windows 98, so I don't really get what the point is anymore. When I hear sounds out of my computer, I don't need to hear the guitarists fingers crack as he moves up and down the fretboard, just need to hear my music.

Speaking of Windows 98, jjust finished installing it in a VM on my Macbook pro.

Speaking of Windows 98, http://toastytech.com/evil/index.html


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Imaginos 2 years ago on 12/06/11
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So im looking to build a new rig for the first time a few years, the thing is I miss the days when processor names told you what they could do. So what is the current tech? Im looking to build a Desktop that will be used for general office stuff, media stream and video editing. I dont do a lot of PC gaming anymore so I dont think i need the real hardcore graphics stuff (which i hope will make this cheaper)

What should i be looking for?
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tranoid no ki 2 years ago on 12/08/11
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a324ykKV-7Y

You should all watch this. The evolution of PC Sound through the sounds of Secret of Monkey Island
 
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SuitJamas 2 years ago on 12/14/11
I was wondering if any of you gamers out there have used gaming mice (like the ones they have at Razor)? Also, if you have ever used the gaming mousepads? If you guys have used any of these, which ones? Did they make much difference in terms of gaming or comfort?
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WWNSX 2 years ago on 12/14/11
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Imaginos said:
So im looking to build a new rig for the first time a few years, the thing is I miss the days when processor names told you what they could do. So what is the current tech? Im looking to build a Desktop that will be used for general office stuff, me...


see my thoughts on Page 2 of this theard
http://otakubooty.com/...amp;tab=&page=2&action=st

Pretty much with the advent of Nvidia's CUDA and AMD and other manufactures pushing Open CLI for aiding Video rendering and other applications now means getting a shit tier card isn't a great idea if you're going to be multii purposing a machine.

Current Tech as far as PC's:
Old G5 Mac Pro's are at cheap ass prices and craigslist (saw a quad core for $350 today in my area)but they run the old PowerPC chips with MASSIVE heatsinks but are hardware limited to Final Cut Pro 6.

Intel is the way to go if you got the cash for the horse power of a i7 CPU; if not then a AMD Phenom II 1100T or maybe a newer AMD Bulldozerr 8 core would be lighter on your wallet and give you decent performance
if not a.

USB 3.0 or E-Sata for external drives is a must if you're going to be using external drives as backup as they provide pretty decent speeds for getting your work off and onto systems. USB 3.0 is backwards compatible with USB 2.0

Since you're not gaming I'd look into maybe a Dual Intel Xeon or AMD Workstation depending on your Video editing needs and which Video editing Suite you'd be using. If you're starting out then going cheap is okay but if you're editing and transcoding to a different format then I'd recommend a quad core or higher.

you may also want to check out http://www.videohelp.com/
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tranoid no ki 2 years ago on 12/26/11
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Added a 60GB OCZ Vertex 3. Even on SATA2 it's rad.
 
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SuitJamas 2 years ago on 12/26/11
NICE Mike. Tomorrow when I get my new PC RIG, I will join you in the SSD fun.
 
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SuitJamas 2 years ago on 12/28/11
Well I got my new PC RIG now. Since, my other thread of PC Gaming/PC RIGs is destined to die, I guess I should just post in here. I'm very happy with the SSD. I didn't know if it would make any difference in surfing the web, but it does. Pages open up faster now. I haven't played any games on it yet. That will be today. I'm looking forward to playing stuff on ultimate settings, and playing some other les taxing games on very high FPS.

I will include a few pics of my new RIG.

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SuitJamas 2 years ago on 12/28/11
Another pic.

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SuitJamas 2 years ago on 12/28/11
Last pic

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SuitJamas 2 years ago on 01/02/12
Well I'm wondering if I'm doing everything I'm supposed to be doing in terms of protecting my PC. I use Norton and the Norton INternet Security, and 360. I have a program that cleans up registry errors, and I use malwarebytes. Anything else I should be doing?
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tranoid no ki 2 years ago on 01/02/12
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KHAAAAAAN!!!!!!!!!! said:
I use Norton and the Norton INternet Security, and 360.


That's your problem. Norton is utter garbage. I use Eset NOD32, and it works just fine. In the past, I have used Microsoft Security Essentials which is actually very nice piece of software, and best of all, it's free.

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