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Otaku Chat “Yo, where's my Hunger Games movie thread?” by kashira

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kashira 2 years ago on 03/23/12
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I sort of can't believe there isn't already a thread for this. If there is, we can just lock this one down.

Has anybody else seen this yet? Thoughts? (I have some that are sort of spoilery for all of the books in the series.) I went last night at midnight and despite its faults, I REALLY liked it. I understand and even agreed with many of the changes they made - especially the scenes between Seneca Crane and President Snow. Since we're missing Katniss giving us the background information on these characters, I thought the movie did a really good job using those scenes to explore the workings of the Capitol, and give us a different viewpoint of it than we saw in the books. I really liked all of the scenes in the main game room, with all the people plotting hazards out on the computer screen.

I thought a lot of the more emotional scenes were really well-done too. I totally teared up at the Reaping, and sat there quietly weeping all through Rue's death and the shots of the uprising in 11 (a nice set-up for the next movies). I was sort of upset though that they didn't include District 11 pooling their money to send Katniss bread. I cried so hard at that in the book. /huge weepy vagina

I do really wish the movie could have been rated R. I understand wanting to make sure kids can see it, but the subject matter in the book is way darker than it seems to be given credit for sometimes. And I can't even imagine how they would faithfully adapt Mockingjay without giving it an R rating.
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ZonbiNoEega 2 years ago on 03/23/12
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I really liked the way they made The Seam look and District 12 in general. It seemed as if photographs from the dust bowl/ great depression 1930's came to life. Fantastic art direction.

I wasn't a fan of some of the omissions, but I liked the movie overall. Details were my biggest rub. IE: The way in which Rue dies, the Tacker Jacker scene and the overall look of the arena (It was pine forest, there was hardly any water to be found aside from the lake and the stream and a few pools) were things I think they could've tweaked just a hair and would have been more faithful to the book.

One thing the screenplay did not do, was hone in on the Hunger portion of the Hunger games. In the book Catniss is talking about being skin and bones at the reaping, gaining weight in the Capitol and starving in the arena. The actors just looked too well fed and didn't emphasize at all the lack of food in the arena. But I suppose that's just not Hollywood for your leading lady to be gaunt, have sunken cheeks and no figure.

I had actually read the book in its entirety on Thursday before I saw the film so it was really fresh in my mind.

If they had made this movie R, oh wow. There easily could've been a Corrmack McCarthy darkness to this movie. (No Country for Old Men, The Road)
I would love to see that re-edit.
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Somebody 2 years ago on 03/24/12
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I did not read the book. But I did see the movie today. I loved it, and may in fact read the books now.

I usually try to avoid reading popular fiction. But I think I can make an exception for this. To be honest I really wanted to go see it because the actress they chose was downright beautiful. Shallow indeed. But theres just something attractive about a woman with wicked bow skills.
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SpeedBrkr 2 years ago on 03/24/12
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The movie was great but still lacked many details of the book, which I highly recommend everyone read!
 
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Uppity Negress 2 years ago on 03/24/12
I -just- got back in from seeing the movie. The details did bug me a little but I could understand most of what they did omit and what they changed. I was really disappointed in the whole "giving of the mockingjay pin" thing, it kind of ruins the relationship revelation as to where the pin came from in the third book. I can kind of understand why they omitted the bread scene so they could get to the riot faster. I've got more thoughts, but I'm sleepyful and will post tomorrow.
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kashira 2 years ago on 03/24/12
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Can't quote on my phone - but ohhhhh, that's right, I had forgotten about that part with the revelation of where the pin came from. At first I could understand changing it so as not to have to introduce a new character. But they are going to have to rework how they do that. The backstory of the pin is sort of important.
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Somebody 2 years ago on 03/24/12
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So the story continues after the games?
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kashira 2 years ago on 03/24/12
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It does.
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Somebody 2 years ago on 03/24/12
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Excellent. I thought the pacing of the movie felt a bit rushed. I think it should have been about 3 hrs long. Luckily for my bladder it was not. Damn you cherry coke.
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Lord_BullGod 2 years ago on 03/24/12
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True story. Three nights ago (Thursday) I was at my usual watering hole, and my buddy the bartender was pouring, and over his shoulder on the TV I see a commercial for the movie, having not really seen or heard of it before, prior to seeing the commercials a week ago. This bartender is pretty bro-ish too; jacked & solid, backwards cap everytime I see him, etc. So I say something along the lines of "I know nothing about that movie but it looks cool."

He goes on for a few minutes about the books, how he reads them, how he thinks they're awesome and everything. Now this was around 11:30, so the news goes live to our local movie theater where DROVES of teenage girls are waving and jumping up and down in line for the midnight premiere. It looked like a Twilight movie. Of course I have to comment on that to him.

"Dude, you're a fag?"

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kashira 2 years ago on 03/24/12
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I was going to flag that with something else and then realized that flag still exists, so I basically had to use it.
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Remember Lommy Greenhands 2 years ago on 03/24/12
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Somebody said:
I do really wish the movie could have been rated R. I understand wanting to make sure kids can see it, but the subject matter in the book is way darker than it seems to be given credit for sometimes. And I can't even imagine how they would faithfully adapt Mockingjay without giving it an R rating.


This is the funniest thing ever - not to pick on you, kashira, but I've heard it before from HG fans and it just blows my mind.

Yeah, the books were dark for a YA series. But they were still written very PG-13.
Dark does not equal an R rating. Sex and violence do. People died in the books obviously but it was never depicted in a really graphic grotesque fashion, George R.R. Martin style. PG-13 baby, PG-13.
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But I suppose that's just not Hollywood for your leading lady to be gaunt, have sunken cheeks and no figure.


Hahaha, what? Were you being sarcastic?
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kashira 2 years ago on 03/24/12
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However - spoiler here for Mockingjay - it was Finnick I was mostly thinking of, his stories about having to be essentially a prostitute of the Capitol. I get that it doesn't have to show graphic violence, I just imagine they might want to draw the line at something like that.
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ZonbiNoEega 2 years ago on 03/25/12
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I was thinking how The Hunger Games concept could be used to make a game. Along similar lines as Fallout New Vegas, skill sets and also its hardcore mode, where hunger and thirst are a factor. You create a tribute, pick their origin district, train certain aspects in the Training center, pander for sponsors, and then fight in the arena. Cornucopia or flight ? Survivalist or brawler? Time in the arena could be condensed somewhat, so that each day last, oh an hour or so in real time, and a bout in the arena to conclusion as victor could last from 2-15 hours. Variables in training and arena could make it infinitely re-playable. Each time you play the arena could be different, from a barren desert, forest or abandoned city..all factors that could bring your chosen skills sets as boon or bane. Hrmm.
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Allison 2 years ago on 03/25/12
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Remember Lommy Greenhands said:

People died in the books obviously but it was never depicted in a really graphic grotesque fashion, George R.R. Martin style. PG-13 baby, PG-13.



I dunno, that one dude getting slowly eaten alive and becoming a bloody mass of meat with eyeballs begging for mercy is pretty damn grotesque to me. i havent seen the movie but i can assume they left that part out.
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B======D 2 years ago on 03/25/12
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Spoilers

All I'm saying is a society that has spaceships, instant-heal medicine, the ability to genetically alter species, and the ability to seemingly manifest said genetic species anywhere from a computer interface map, why the fuck do they need districts to mine coal for them and preform other minor labor? Build some fucking robots and call it a day.
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Chrispy 2 years ago on 03/25/12
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Well, we can mend damaged nerves, guide missiles to a target within inches from halfway across the globe, and access the entire written history of humanity at the touch of our fingers, but we still use little Chinese hands to place microchips into phones because labor is hella cheap, dude!
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B======D 2 years ago on 03/25/12
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Chrispy said:
Well, we can mend damaged nerves, guide missiles to a target within inches from halfway across the globe, and access the entire written history of humanity at the touch of our fingers, but we still use little Chinese hands to place microchips into phones because labor is hella cheap, dude!


True, maybe I just a diehard Battle Royale fan and thus a Hunger Games hater?
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Killian 2 years ago on 03/25/12
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Just got back and I also just finished the first book a couple of days ago. Liked the book and the film was kinda eh. I definitely thought that some of the writing was so-so but when the actress playing Katniss had some room for emotion she really shinned! When she is about to go into the tube and is just shaking... wow boy did I believe that! Shaking because of overloaded nerves is something that happened to me when I was herded off the bus at Marine Corps bootcamp. She nailed it.

They had most of the key scenes and moments but they lacked the depth and character development that the book had.

The shaky camera in the beginning was reaaaally over done.
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SpeedBrkr 2 years ago on 03/26/12
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Killian said:
They had most of the key scenes and moments but they lacked the depth and character development that the book had.


This. Pretty much how I felt too. Here's hoping they address this in the next 3 Hunger Games movies!

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