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Otaku Chat “Yo, where's my Hunger Games movie thread?” by kashira

 
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Bitch Tits 14 months ago on 03/26/12
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The shaky camera in the beginning was reaaaally over done.



Yes!!!! The headache that induced...oy.
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ZonbiNoEega 14 months ago on 03/26/12
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Racist Hunger Games fans are racist.

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DrCrowdPleaser 14 months ago on 03/26/12
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I read the book Saturday at my girlfriend's behest and went to go see the film today and my overall reaction is simply, "how disappointing."

I didn't feel emotional connection, emotional character growth, or anguish. These characters are in a life and death situation and it never came off to me as such. Even though the book is short, this could've been stretched out into a miniseries. You could create one full episode out of the relationship between Rue and Katniss.

Storytelling bitching aside, handheld camera is no way to film an entire movie. It's confusing, ill-planned, and overall lazy filmmaking.
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Rexall 14 months ago on 03/26/12
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I haven't read the book. I'm sure the book is very good, but I thought the movie sucked. Too many plotholes
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diavana 14 months ago on 03/27/12
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All I'm sayin' is... Team Peeta.

I have a weakness for little boys who bake cakes.
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Allison 14 months ago on 03/27/12
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Rexall said:
Too many plotholes


Really? like what?

I haven't seen the movie yet, I am just interested to see what they might have screwed up.
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Killian 14 months ago on 03/27/12
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There weren't really plot holes but just a real lack of back story or explanation of things. If you haven't read the book and see the movie and come away wondering why something is the way it is or what something is then read the book because it does a much better job setting the scene/world up.
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Rexall 13 months ago on 03/28/12
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Allison said:

Really? like what?


If the event "The Hunger Games" is so popular, and the tributes are to try to gather support from supporters, why were there only two gifts presented in the movie....medicine and a bowl of Campbell soup.....couldn't the sponsor have spent a little more for Progresso (just sayin'..LOL)

We establish earlier on that Peter is good with a paintbrush and making a tree on his arm. He gets cut with a sword, chased by the Saved by the Bell alliance from hell, and somehow has enough time to paint his face and meld with the rocks. Yeah...ummm where did he find a mirror and how did he get a paintbrush.

If there's supposed to be 1 winner, what the hell is up with the Saved by the Bell alliance.

Every time a tribute dies, a cannon goes off. How come no cannon went off when the smurf got his neck twisted, or the girl died from the bee stings, or when Rue died.

The black guy saves Katniss and then says "This is for Rue" how does he know what Katniss did for Rue?

Each tribute is to have a support. Did only Woody Harrelson's char tel his crew to run for the woods? Cuz everyone else ran right into the death squad in the middle. Even the little kids which ended up being mercilessly killed by the older kids.

This movie had the potential to have been an excellent movie. I feel it dropped the ball. There were a handful of more things that I noticed, but I'm not going to list them all.

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Michi 13 months ago on 03/29/12
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I think I was happy with the film overall. Some of the stuff cut out bugged me even though they made sense, like the Mockingjay pin, the complete lack of Avoxes (they're THERE but never even touched upon, which might mess stuff up later), etc. But for the most part, I think it was one of the better film adaptations out there. It covered the important stuff. It was paced pretty well. I am content. I was in LOVE with The Hunger Games after reading book 1. Book 2 and 3 quickly went downhill for me, so perhaps my love has been diminished and I'm not quite as attached to it. Meaning, I'm not so bothered by the changes. Ah well, it worked!

I still love Cinna and Gale the best. I still don't like Peeta, though his one line about taking the bow was the best ever.

I can talk spoilery about all the stuff that happened within the film, right? Nobody's reading this thread to inspire themselves to see a movie they haven't seen?

Spoilers anyway --

I saw this with my boyfriend last night. I read all three books about a month ago, and he hasn't read anything. As SOON as Rue and Katniss teamed up, like right after Katniss woke up with the leaves on her and Rue came over, I started crying. I seriously fucking lost it and kept sobbing up until Rue died. The scene in the book made me tear up, for sure, but I was in a Starbucks at the time and remember keeping it as quiet as possible. But I couldn't help myself in the film, even knowing what was going to happen. Anyway I felt REALLY bad because it basically made it obvious to my boyfriend what was about to happen to Rue, oops.

Killian said:
The shaky camera in the beginning was reaaaally over done.


I went into this movie tipsy from drinking with co-workers, so the shaky cam REALLY DID NOT HELP. Oh god.
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diavana 13 months ago on 03/29/12
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I agree that the Avoxes kind of got jipped.
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Michi 13 months ago on 03/30/12
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I totally forgot about it until I saw "Avox Girl" in the credits and I was like "...but they were just in the background..." Maybe there are deleted scenes?
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nomad 13 months ago on 04/02/12
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God this movie sucked. What the fuck, how was this entertaining at all? The first 1:30 minutes was a snooze fest and the actual "games" was boring as hell, no action at all except for the ending, which was just as boring, a sequence that lasted about 2 seconds.

The back story is so quickly glazed over that if you miss it you don't know what the fuck is going on, the entire premise is sick and twisted and even in roman times people were'nt so barbaric as to have children killing each other for their amusement. I mean its suppose to mirror gladiator games, but they just grab random kids and expect them to be able to fight and survive and shit. Stupid, stupid, stupid.

The one thing that made sense was the district that actually trained its kids. We're the rest of the districts THAT DUMB to just randomly select kids and throw them into the fire? WTF? Its not like they DIDNT know one of them would get picked! I mean fucking randomly select one BEFORE THE GAMES and train the mother fucker, give him a fucking chance!

Is this what passes for entertainment these days? Kids fighting to the death? Man, this is a new low and fucking stupid and unbelievable. This movie was shit.
PS: Also, WTF was it with sending a 12 year old? If you were part of the district would'nt you say, hey listen kids, we dont give a shit, but we're just gonna randomly select a 18 year old no matter what and MAKE him volunteer because HE/SHE HAS A HIGHER CHANCE OF SURVIVING???? Yeah, lets send the 12 year old little girl who will get horribly killed within 5 seconds, this makes sense, solong stupid girl!
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Michi 13 months ago on 04/02/12
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nomad said:
The one thing that made sense was the district that actually trained its kids. We're the rest of the districts THAT DUMB to just randomly select kids and throw them into the fire? WTF? Its not like they DIDNT know one of them would get picked! I mean fucking randomly select one BEFORE THE GAMES and train the mother fucker, give him a fucking chance!


That's not the idea, though. The games are entertainment for the Capitol. Kids with no chance are just as fun as kids that train their lives for it. They like the variety.

Also, most of the districts are a lot more against the games than the districts with the "careers," and they're often too poor to extend resources to something like training kids. The districts don't volunteer to be part of the games. They have no choice.
It's also, to be kinda cold about it, only two kids per year, so the poorer districts definitely couldn't waste their time training all the kids rather than preparing them for their future career. For example, in district 12, pretty much everyone learns how to become a coal miner instead.

It is messed up. It's the Capitol's idea of punishing a revolt that happened 75 years in the past. That's why Katniss and her actions finally inspire the districts to start standing up again, as the movie began to hint at.
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nomad 13 months ago on 04/02/12
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Michi said:


That's not the idea, though. The games are entertainment for the Capitol. Kids with no chance are just as fun as kids that train their lives for it. They like the variety.

Also, most of the districts are a lot more against the games than ...


Who cares about the capitol, it was established that they could volunteer children to go and fight, as done by Katniss.

They don't need to waste resources on training all the kids, just 2 of them, 2 18 year old's that they can say, hey you 2 fuckers go and train all day all night and learn to survive until you volunteer for the games next year. That one district did it, why wouldn't the other ones? Why the fuck would they send 12 year olds when a 18 year old can volunteer, are they really that fucked up that they dont care? I mean isnt there ONE rational person who would volunteer to not send a 12 year old to get horribly killed!
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Michi 13 months ago on 04/02/12
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Because they're all scared and not ready to make that sacrifice... I don't know, I didn't write it! I think they've all just accepted it's messed up and deal with it. Peeta had older brothers that didn't volunteer for him.

I think bottom line it's just they're too poor to train them. The districts with the career tributes have a lot more resources. But again, it's messed up either way. The career tributes have some clear issues. Cato broke down, saying how all he knows it's fighting. It's no way to live no matter what.
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nomad 13 months ago on 04/02/12
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Michi said:
Because they're all scared and not ready to make that sacrifice... I don't know, I didn't write it! I think they've all just accepted it's messed up and deal with it. Peeta had older brothers that didn't volunteer for him.

I think bottom line i...


Which is why it makes it a stupid movie, the entire thing is based on a stupid premise that doesn't make sense. I dont understand your arguments at all, too poor to train? Well don't train them but at least DONT SEND 12 YEAR OLDS IF YOU DONT NEED TO! Have a lottery with only 18 year old's!

The movie is ruined by dumb things like volunteering and having careers, had they just selected them randomly and snatched them up it would make alot more sense.

But even so, its still based on the premise that society has become so decadent that watching children getting horribly murdered is entertainment, something I just cant believe would ever happen. Its a movie, sure, but its a pathetic premise and completely unbelievable, especially if its a future technologically advanced society.
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Scarlett 13 months ago on 04/02/12
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UUUUGH Read all three books in the days coming up to the movie and I still haven't seen it. I need to fix this ASAP!


I'm also going to do myself a favor and not read anything Rick says because looks like it's wah wah I don't get the story. Read the books! It's the best thing anyone can do after seeing the movie.
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nomad 13 months ago on 04/02/12
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Scarlett said:
UUUUGH Read all three books in the days coming up to the movie and I still haven't seen it. I need to fix this ASAP!


I'm also going to do myself a favor and not read anything Rick says because looks like it's wah wah I don't get the story. R...


This is such a poor excuse to make a movie seem better then what it is. Im not critiquing the books, Im critiquing the MOVIE. Why do I need to read the books to understand a MOVIE? Where does it say read the book to enjoy this movie? If it was a good movie you would NEED to read the books to enjoy it! The books may be fucking genius, but this movie was shit.
PS: *would'nt need to read the books....
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Scarlett 13 months ago on 04/02/12
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I'm just saying, if you want to whine about not understanding the story and you actually want to, read the books. It's not a personal attack and I apologize if I made it seem that way. It's actually a decent read and I'm sad that you didn't get that from the film.

I can agree / disagree as I haven't seen the movie yet but I look forward to talking to you more about where the (inevitable) holes were!

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pamelaNeko 13 months ago on 04/02/12
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nomad said:
od this movie sucked. What the fuck, how was this entertaining at all? The first 1:30 minutes was a snooze fest and the actual "games" was boring as hell, no action at all except for the ending, which was just as boring, a sequence that lasted about...


My friend Donna said the same thing! She was like "B.O.R.I.N.G." but then she doesn't read much fantasy or get into any nerdy pursuits.

You know, when I was reading the books I ate them up like candy, but was just YEARNING for a better writer to tackle this issue. I wanted to learn about why & how something like the the Games would become a part of their (our?) society. The books never delivered anything that interesting. The universe is INCREDIBLY SHALLOW, basically written from the point of view of a 17-year-old. Which is why many people love them, I'm sure. But I was ultimately left disappointed, it just rang hollow.

I guess I can kind of understand how through isolation and inflicted ignorance, entire population districts can just accept something without really questioning it, accepting the despair of the situation and letting fear of death overrule attempts to beat the system or at least give it a fair try. Did the movie explain that the disticts are completely isolated, and that all sources of information are strictly governed by the Capitol? I'm guessing not b/c I had to explain that to Donna as well. When you see District 12 at the beginning of the year's Games announcements, they just seemed resigned to losing two more kids. There was never ANY hope expressed that their kids would win.

Also keep in mind that it's not just the information that is limited-- each District's imports & exports are highly regulated. I also heard the complaint that it didn't make sense that the District providing all the fuel exports (coal) would be the poorest. Not only was owning a weapon totally against the law, it was extremely difficult & dangerous to procure one. I'm sure in such a society, the curriculum & community activities were very closely monitored. If the citizens of some districts were basically slaves, why would they be allowed to arm themselves and train for combat?

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